Portal talk:Arts

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Portal:Arts page.

If the portalpage doesn't update after editing one of the above templates, use this link --Sketchee 18:37, 23 (UTC) sup sup sup sup sup sup The above changed recently. I've changed the links above. -->>sparkit|[[User_talk:spar<]] 00:26, July 13, 2005 (UTC)–

The portal link template is now...

<div style="float: right; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; border: solid #aaa 1px; background: #f9f9f9; padding: 1ex; font-size: 90%;">
|| [[Image:Portal.gif|Portal]]
|| '''''[[Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Art|Art Wikiportal]]

-->>sparkit|TALK<< 00:26, July 13, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Archives

--sparkit (talk) 13:22, May 1, 2005 (UTC) i knew that it is very interesting

[edit] New Art Portal Link Template

I have created a link template at Template:artportal which can be added to pages so people can find the portal easily. I've already added it to a few category pages. Maria N 11:24, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:artportal is being deleted, with the suggestion to use Template:Portalpar. (See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted/June 2005#Template:Artportal) --sparkit (talk) June 30, 2005 13:25 (UTC)

Traditional Chinese Music Chinese music can be traced far back into history. Around 3,000 years ago, when European music was just experiencing its first breath of life, a complete musical theory and sophisticated musical instruments began appearing in China. The orthodox ritual music advocated by Confucius was largely responsible for this Chinese interest in and mastery of music. By the Han Dynasty (206 B.C.-220 A.D.), the imperial court set up a Music Bureau, which was in charge of collecting and editing ancient melodies and folk songs. Because of commercial contacts with Central Asia, foreign music entered China and modified as well as improved Chinese music. By the time of Emperor Hsuan Tsung (r. 713-755 A.D.) of the Tang Dynasty, the court organized the Pear Garden Academy song and dance troupe which cultivated a large number of musicians and laid a firm foundation for Chinese music.

As with anything, traditional Chinese music had many different variations depending on the time period, region, and individual. Each imperial court had its own specialty. Each dynasty focused on different aspects of the music. And within each dynasty, different regions and localities possessed their own style of music. As with Western music, solo performances of musical instruments also exist. Some musical pieces are performed slowly to creating a relaxing ambience while others are performed very quickly to mark an atmosphere of excitement and festivity.

The variations of rhythm, beat, tone quality, and embellishments in traditional Chinese music are highly distinctive and unlike their Western counterparts. This is mainly due to the unique sounds and playing styles of traditional Chinese musical instruments. Chinese musical instruments can be divided into four basic categories based on the method by which they are played: blown, bowed, plucked, and struck (i.e. percussion) instruments.

In traditional Chinese orchestras, the combination of all the different instruments served to create a harmonious and beautiful auditory atmosphere. Unbelievingly beautiful music was made and is still made. Many Chinese instruments can produce purely unique and amazing sounds. Some famous traditional pieces have been amassed below for your listening pleasure.


[edit] New Portal:Dance

I've just started Portal:Dance. Is it ok to add a link to it under "performing arts"? --Roland2 15:03, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles for March and April

Shouldn't Parthenon and Sicilian Baroque belong in Portal:Architecture? – Ham 11:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome to change them, but as I understand it, architecture is an aspect of Art.--cj | talk 11:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

h i —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Placement of "Did you know..."

What do you all think of moving the "Did you know..." box down to the width = 100% section so that there's less dead space down there? Rfrisbietalk 06:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 21:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename

Would this be better named as Portal:Arts, Art implies to many people just Fine art, not the broader meaning encompassed here. dml 18:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting

  • Support, as per the above. David Kernow 20:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

FYI, I have now moved all of the subpages of this portal to correspond with its new location. Canderson7 (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I object to the move. Only the 'subportals' section and the featured articles (as discussed above, two are more relevant to architecture than art) suggest that this is an 'Arts' portal. Every other section, however, concerns visual art, and this portal is part of the Visual arts Wikiproject (such as it is). I think the name should be reverted to Portal:Art unless someone is willing to add content that would give this portal a broader coverage of 'the Arts', in which case I will create a new Portal:Visual art, based on what is currently here.
Apologies for the late response; the vote seems to have passed me by until the move was made. However, I have been a fairly regular contributor to this portal and would like my comments to be addressed. Ham 21:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't really mind one way or the other regarding the name, and you're certainly entitled to an opinion. Considering though that each name change requires an additional fifty edits (to get all the subpages in place, eliminate double redirects, etc.), I suggest that a final name be settled upon before any further action is taken. Canderson7 (talk) 23:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I would rather this were reverted to Portal:Art, unless anyone can make a sufficiently strong case for a portal for The Arts, i.e. covering art, music, architecture, literature, theatre, cinema, poetry, opera etc. As the Wikipedia community doesn't seem to be awfully strong on the arts I don't think there would be enough impetus for one – but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong! Ham 15:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
There is a need for a Portal:Arts if only for linking from the Main Page, where the portals are prominently placed. Portal:Art (i.e. one only covering Visual or Fine Art) is too narrow to get a link, the Arts collectively are appropriate (including Literature, Music, etc.). dml 16:16, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
A fair enough point. Art (visual art) is too narrow a field to rank alongside Science, Technology, Society etc. (at least, in terms of the quality of its coverage on Wikipedia), but it deserves a portal alongside literature, music and the rest. If I were to create Portal:Visual arts (that particular nomenclature because of Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts), I would like the visual art-specific elements of Portal:Arts to be moved to the new portal. This would include:
  • Quotes
  • Did You Know
  • Wikiprojects
  • Things you can do
  • Most of the categories – i.e. under the first line rule
As for replacements to these relevant to the arts, I can't do that alone; a lot of the aspects of this broad topic lie outside my radar (I could manage updates to the visual arts portal though, no problem). I don't mean to come across as anal, it's just that Portal:Arts needs to have a better idea of what it's supposed to be; at the moment it doesn't seem to know whether it's an art or an arts portal. HAM Image:Icons-flag-wales.png 13:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
It should be the composite portal covering all of The Arts, from the visual to the physical. At present, this portals' selected article and selected picture are set to update until May. --cj | talk 23:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Support cj. For example, the Arts subsume music and any other competent action. But 'visual arts' are unnecessarily restrictive. Now what about 'participation in the arts'? What about both active participation, passive participation? --Ancheta Wis 09:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erroneous Material

I removed some material from the bottom of the Arts portal a couple weeks ago. Someone had put up a link about Green Day (something like "Green Day is teh best!!"). I took it upon myself to DELETE it. Hopefully, it won't happen again. Rdbrd82 22:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I just removed another phrase from the bottom of the intro of the Art protal. the words "I like cheese." were there under the more info link. Perhaps someone should keep an eye out for this kind of stuff? Raine 18:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

See WP:VAND, it's a constant battle that we fight using volunteers and a few bots. -Quiddity 19:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I recently click on the tab "Arts" and only appear the phrase "suck my balls". I think this is a joke from someone not very serious. Did anyone have the same problem?Iaquil 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comics

While I agree that comics should be considered art, I think they should removed from the main portal and placed under Literature. Does anyone else agree? Bitoffish 16:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

  • While I don't have any objection to comics being considered art either, on the (very poor) resolution I'm currently using there isn't room for more than six icons in the subportals section, so Comics would seem the obvious one to go. HAM Image:Icons-flag-wales.png 08:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Strong object on placing "comics" under "literature", strong support on playing "comics" under "visual art". All comics are visual art. Many comics are not literature. This is because it is required in the definition of comics that they always incorporate images, but it is not required that they incorporate text; adding text to an image does not make it "literature", unless The Betrayal of Images is "literature". This is why one of the synonyms for comics is "sequential art"; no synonym for comics is "art and words combined" (else children's books would also be "comics"). Why waste space with a redundancy by including both "Comics" and "Visual arts", when we still don't have many other art media listed? -Silence 18:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I have just found these comments. Unfortunately discussion has been fragmented between two or three pages. Can I refer everybody to the Comics heading on Portal talk:Arts/Categories? Comics was included under both Literature and Visual arts on the request of Hiding. Previously it had been under Visual arts.

Would it be better if we had all these discussions on the Arts Project Talk page? - Kleinzach 09:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know...

The did you know section needs updating, it hasn't been updated since december 05... Sotakeit 17:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured articles

I just posed the same question to Portal talk:History, but it applies here too. I noticed that this portal puts the featured articles into subpages such as, Portal:Arts/Featured article/April, 2006. In March, I added to my watchlist all the portal pages that are linked on the Main Page and their subpages (linked with the small "edit" buttons), to monitor for vandalism. I just now noticed the monthly featured article subpage was different than the one I put on my watchlist in March. Because of that, vandalism to Portal:History/Featured article/April, 2006 went unnoticed for 24 hours. I probably missed some here too. I'd rather not have to come back each month to add new subpages, so would anyone object if the featured article stay in Portal:Arts/Featured article and not further subpages? Once they are archived, then I'm fine with moving them into the dated subpages. -Aude (talk | contribs) 19:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

My response would be the same as at Portal talk:History.--cj | talk 07:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vote for featured content

With the end of the month approaching fast, I've started voting processes for Featured article of the month and Featured picture of the month on Portal:Arts. Please vote or make your own nominations on the relevant pages. If there are no votes I will promote Igor Stravinsky and Image:Pantheon wider centered.jpg by default – both are proper Wikipedia featured content. One point we need to raise is whether we only allow proper featured articles and pictures (as with Portal:Geography), or whether we relax the requirements for showcasing (as with most other portals, which have Selected articles etc.). Featured articles are not a problem, but arts-related featured pictures are rather thin on the ground, and when you don't count the art or architecture ones they're non-existent. HAM 16:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poetry subportal?

Is a "Poetry" subportal really necessary with the inclusion of a "Literature" subportal? As I understand it, poetry and prose are devolved entities of Literature, so putting a "Poetry" subportal next to a "Literature" one seems to be anti-hierarchical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs)

[edit] color of boxes

This color... would you consider changing it to something not so pinky? - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 18:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC) I agree. Perhaps a neutral colour eg. blue? Jam01 05:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The humain body?

The humain body should be added to the art portal. with subsections of tattoo's, piercings and bodymodifications. Bodypainting? references: bmezine.com bodymod.org modblog.bmezine.com lots of good tattooist out there: Paul Booth http://www.darkimages.com/enter.asp

[edit] Experts needed

A category for articles that need expert assistance from those with knowledge of Arts has been created and articles are being sorted into the category (Category:Pages needing expert attention from the Arts Portal). I would like to propose adding a reference to this on the portal page, perhaps in the Projects section so that those with expertise in the Arts would be made aware of it and would have a link to it.

Make that Category:Pages needing expert attention from Arts experts. --Brad Beattie (talk) 12:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Photographer

I would like to suggest a new entry for Internet Photographer. This is a person who takes a lot of photos and posts them to the internet with the purpose of sharing the photos but really to rank high on the various search engines. The internet photographer does not sell his photos but rather shares them freely for educational and non-commercial purposes. The internet photographer ordinarily does not have a brick and mortar establishment and may be seen as someone persuing a hobby. A good example of an "Internet Photographer's" home page is http://www.mikesjournal.com/ Internet photographer Mike has an image portal where he posts high ranking photographs from the google.images search engine. See http://www.mikesjournal.com/mikesjournal_greatest_hits.htm

[edit] Remove selected quotes to Portal:Visual arts?

The current selected quote, which has remained unchanged for months, is by an artist who doesn't even have a Wikipedia article. I think this section has had its day on P:A and am proposing to move it to the Visual arts portal. As P:VA rotates content at random, the rankly more interesting quotes currently languishing in the archive would get the regular airing they deserve. The entire section is a leftover from the days when this was an portal for art rather than the arts; let's move it to its proper home. [talk to the] HAM 20:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oscar Wilde

Whenever I see that image, the first thing I think is Uncyclopedia. I wonder if it is natural or not :)--Scheibenzahl 02:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm, same with me. How strange, since Uncylopedia never "quotes" Oscar Wilde. — MalcolmUse the schwartz! 18:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

what is the difference between loss and lose? give the past tense, past participle of the two words loss and looseTiapukel

[edit] 'Art'

Is there a reason that at Portal:Arts/Intro "art" has apostrophes around it (as in 'art')? I'm going to go ahead and remove it, but if there is a reason for this, feel free to change it back. *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 19:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Please reply on my talk page, because I doubt I'll remember that I've left this message. :P *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 19:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] selected quotes

would it be possible to make proposing a quote for this article easier. It maybe me but i have just spent 5 minutes trying to find the route. I do like the facility and it has enabled me to learn about new arts and artists. That's what a good quote can do. --Edmund Patrick 17:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transcreation/transcreator

I would like to start a new subject concerning this fairly new occupation. While it has probably been done by a lot of people all over the world for some time, it has not yet had an official name. Transcreation involves both translation and adaptation according to cultural specifications. Typically, it is a creative adaptation of advertising material or brands to the requirements of various countries and cultures, and may involve finding a new brand name for an item if the original name means something culturally unacceptable in the target language. Transcreators are emerging as a group of skilled and creative translators who are innovative and have thorough knowledge of languages and cultures, many are originally translators. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] portal page as of 5 December

{{helpme}} Is it me or is the page a mess. For example features picture completely covers featured article. Been like this for a couple of hours (even with cleared cache!)! Sorry but my editing skills are improving but they are not that good. Any assistance please Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 20:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I will take care of it, but I will need some minutes.--Thw1309 (talk) 21:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

There was no mistake with the portal. The mistake was the page Portal:Arts/Featured article/December, 2007 The only text there was {| This interacted with the syntax of the portal page and created a complete mess, which could not be recognized from the project page. Now you only have to create an article December 2007. Happy editing.--Thw1309 (talk) 22:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
You were the victim of a very clever vandal. The featured article is working again. --Thw1309 (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)