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Sean Webster —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arousingeyehole (talkcontribs) 18:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


  • For archival material between July 29, 2002 (Creation of Page) and Aug 23, 2002, please start at this link. For an explanation of why this approach is used, please see below.--GordonWatts 04:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Archive 1 (Aug 23, 2002 -to- Feb 08, 2003)
  • For archival material between Feb 08, 2003 and Feb 15, 2004, please see the Page History for this page. The reason I have not manually created an archive page is that some entries on archive don't have listings in the page history, so there are errors that I can't fix. One example is this: At the bottom of Archive 1, we find "--Brion 00:53 Feb 8, 2003 (UTC)," but this diff clearly shows that the actual page history skips from Feb 05, 2003 to late evening Feb 08, 2003, with no mention of Brion's 00:53 entry. Another example is this: "Eclecticology 18:57 Dec 23, 2002 (UTC)" is not in the page history. Observe: This diff here skips from 18:34 on the 23rd to 20:00, that same day, with no mention of Eclecticology's 18:57 entry. I give up! So, I shall not attempt to recreate this portion of the archive; Rather, I shall merely move forward. See below, and have a nice day.--GordonWatts 04:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Archive 2 (Feb 15, 2004 -to- Mar 27, 2004)
  • Archive 3 (Mar 15, 2004 -to- Sep 08, 2004)
  • Archive 4 (Sep 08, 2004 -to- Jun 02, 2005)
  • Archive 5 (Nov 08, 2004 -to- Jan 07, 2007)
  • Archive 6 (Jan 12, 2007 -to- Dec 31, 2007)


[edit] we have permission to use text now what?

We made an article on Maurice Watts and now they say we violated some sort of GFDL policy becuase it contains text from his fan club site. This is because we run his fan club. We have Mr. Watts permission to use all of the text posted. How do we get the notice removed from our page? All4love312 (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The instructions you'll need are at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#Copyright_owners_who_submitted_their_own_work_to_Wikipedia. Basically, you can either put a note on the fan club page that permits the content to be reused under the GFDL or you can e-mail permissions-en at wikimedia dot org from an address associated with the fan club. Tra (Talk) 17:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

OK Mr. Watts is having the fan club place the notice on thier page and his official site. The problem we have now is where's the page? Will we have to retype all of the text we spent time typing up or will Wikipedia simply un-delete the page?All4love312 (talk) 18:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Once you have put the put the notice up, tell me where it is (either by posting here or if I don't see it, on my talk page) and I'll see about undeleting the article. Tra (Talk) 18:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Very important question about notable people editing their own article

Okay let's say I was some celebrity or whatever and wanted to add information on my own article....Would I need to have a reliable source to back up my claims? I'm pretty sure if I was the celebrity the most reliable source would be me. Like let's say I wanted to add info on my childhood, or if I was in a rock band I'd add info on how the band came to be, etc. what would I need to include to prove that I'm telling the truth? Radiohumor (talk) 20:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It's best for people to not edit articles about themselves. A person could edit the talk page for the article, and post links to sources there. I believe that anyone can cut stuff for BLP reasons at anytime, including the subject of the article. Dan Beale-Cocks 00:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay but let's say I was like Robert Plant in Led Zeppelin and wanted to edit my article, something about my childhood, stuff that happened like 50 years ago, how would I get a source for that? Radiohumor (talk) 06:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

You would make sure your official biographer included it (and good biographers would cross-check with relatives or other sources who were around at the time), then once the book is published, you have a reference. Otherwise, the material has to be left out of Wikipedia. Remember, it is very difficult to prove that an editor claiming to be a particular person in the real world actually is that person. dramatic (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you ******* serious? So to make a small little edit I have to make a bigass autobiography about me? We need to change this rule. Radiohumor (talk) 01:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The source doesn't necessarily have to be a biography; it could be a quick mention in a news article, for example. There just needs to be some way to reliably verify that the material being added is true and is not being made up. Tra (Talk) 19:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia needs everything to be from verifiable reliable sources. Bob might know what he did in 1986, but Bob can't add that information to the article about Bob unless it's in a source. It's probably a good idea if Bob doesn't make any edits to the article about Bob, but makes mentions on the talk page. The exception would be 'BLP' vio stuff, which anyone can remove at anytime. Dan Beale-Cocks 23:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reviewing the Jack Morton page =

{{help me}} by having independent review of the Jack Morton Worldwide page, which I'm barred from editing, but has received edits from others. I believe this qualifies for review of both of the page's flags which regard conflict of interest and "this page is written like an advertisement." JMorton (talk) 14:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I will look into it.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 14:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
You could use the article talk page unless specific editing restrictions prevent the use of the article talk page too. If you can, it would be useful as it'll help keep track of all comments, requests and such, in one location. Nick (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright query

What is the copyright status of images taken by the RAF? I'd like to use image #2 from here in an article about the ship. Please copy any answer to my talk page. Mjroots (talk) 04:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I do belive there are some pages here that could clear that up. Take some time and search around for it Darkmaster2004 (talk) 10:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First articles

What was the very first article on Wikipedia as well as

  • 1,000,000th
  • 2,000,000th?

LOTRrules (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

See Category:Milestone Wikipedia articles and Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. -- Quiddity (talk) 23:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. LOTRrules (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Coenwulf of Mercia" , a registered one , is now translated into french

Hark , hark!! the translation is now available in modern french , and even intelligible to lay people . If somebody knows the father , the uncle should like to present him the baby . Please rise & shine ! --Arapaima (talk) 12:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archive search link made

Please see the suggestion at Template talk:Villagepump#Village pump section search links, for adding an (already created) quick-link for searching the archives, to the main header template. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] not sure where to post this

Panrimo. This article needs to be deleted. It was made by a user also named Panrimo. Obvious self promotion. gotta go. vandalism high. JOIN THE WP:CVU!!!--AtTheAbyss (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Physics Editor or New Policy needed on Wave Power

I am disclosed as conflicted on Wave Power for . Wave Power needs a serious re-write; it has become a link farm. I work hard on WP. Could someone take a serious look at, my one outside, pro bono, non-profit, public domain, charitable work, and then summarize the GEWP proposal, post it on Wave Power, and stay around to defend it from being removed and called "a hoax or worse"? I'm on this Village pump page because I orginally suggest a policy change for WP, where someone (like me) who has fully disclosed his identity and conflict should not be at the mercy of an anonymous editor who might have a vested interest in an opposing view, such as continuing to burn oil and coal for eternity (for profit). Wave Power is very important as a reference under Alternative Energy. As it stands now, given the link farm, and given the esoteric programs highlighted in the article, and given WP's authority amongest students, teachers, researchers, lay public, etc., one is lead to believe that the large scale harvesting of ocean waves is is "a hoax or worse". You will need to roll back the Talk Page on the article, because I reverted to a time before GEWP was being discussed. Doug Youvan , , aka 100TWdoug (talk) 20:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Don't revert talk pages, that's probably very bad. Is GEWP mentioned in any reliable source? If so they should be mentioned here. A user on the talk page mentions the need for clearing up the external links; did that ever happen? Dan Beale-Cocks 09:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Has anyone heard of a tool that measures.....

Mainspace articles edited by a particular user ranked by number of edits:

For instance, [1] gives me my top 15 mainspace articles edited by editcount. Is there a tool to get the top 100 or whatever? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Try this - maybe it helps :

--gppande «talk» 11:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have that already - sorry if I didn't clarify properly. My edits to all articles ranked by number of edits on each article. Thanks for helping out. I might see if that directory has anything else there. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Right, I didn't understand the thing earlier. If you get anything like that do let me know too. It would be really nice to have such a tool. gppande «talk» 14:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William J. Wallace: New Article

The article William J. Wallace is in the process of being created by a user now. It has no references whatsoever, and I cannot find anything on the Internet to suggest it is legitimate. The only other hit is here on Wikipedia at St. Michael's Basilica, with many contributions by the same editor as the newly created article above. One other hit which will eventually show up in Google is ALS, which is where I first became aware of this new article.

I'm a bit of a skeptic by nature, but that doesn't mean the article is not legitimate. What's an editor to do? Isaacsf (talk) 19:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's obviously an essay, not permitted here on the 'pedia. It lacks verifiable references. You can put the {{notability}} and {{references}} templates at the top. Or you could nominate it for deletion. Other editors may have other suggestions. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 20:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shortcut for VP:ALL?

Can we have a shortcut for the "all" village pump, like WP:VPALL? — Omegatron 16:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AddPortletLink()

Hello! Today I got four to five javascript messages "AddPortletLink()" everytime I wanted to load a new WP page. I then removed all of my monobook codes, which solved the problem. Is there a possibility to avoid this message AND using some monobook codes?
Kind regards, Tirkfl (talk) 07:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I am having the same problem, all of a sudden this started happening. Solution anyone? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question about Wikipedia "API"?

How are websites like and getting Wikipedia content to show up?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of pages

Recently my watch page list has been clogged up with several edits, notably deletions of pages which redirect to real articles, such as "In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia finds you" is redirected to Soviet Union, gets deleted and then shown as one of many ugly red links in the watch list. So these vandals creating these nonesense pages are clogging up people's watchlists with the subsequent deletions. Can something be done to stop this? Its annoying, or rapidly block the vandals. Tourskin (talk) 05:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I hate to say it, but the obvious suggestion is not to watch pages you don't want to see changes to. I personally love seeing the deletion log notice for articles in my watchlist - I only watch a few hundred articles and it's nice to see when one's deleted so I can stop worrying about it (if I requested it) or investigate why it was deleted (if I missed the AfD/speedy notice). --Philosopher Let us reason together. 07:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red dotted border in diffs

The red dotted border that has begun showing up in diffs today is distracting and confusing; please remove it. Badagnani (talk) 23:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I am robotman here to help. Assign a task on the Wikipedia and I will promptly complete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot summaries

Why do plot summaries in several video game articles seem to have been cut down to a synopsis? The detailed descriptions of plots were ridiculously useful when trying to find out about a film, TV show or video game. Particularly for when there was something in the story that was missed or misunderstood.

As if the removal of trivia sections wasn't bad enough. Wikipedia is now officially useless for the media as pages basically just consist of information from IMDB and review scores from rotten tomatoes or metacritic or something now. Brilliant. (talk) 04:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with editing my userpage-userboxes

I need help editing my userpage. I currently added a whole lot of userboxes to the first two sections of my userpage. Now, it looks all disorganized. Please help clean it up a bit, yet keep everything still on the page plz. Maybe even add some text, to go along with it too. I don't spend a whole lot of time on Wikipedia, and currently my job is requiring me to work a lot more hours.User:Byankno1 Chris Batchelor(Byankno1) 01:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA vs. A

I never really undestood a thing: looking at all the projects, the A rating is considered superior to the GA rating. However, the GA rating has been offered a lot more "style" (logo, nominations page, etc), and usually that would make people, especially those that are not very familiar with the system, think the GA is better than A (at least I did). Is there any (good) reason why A is superior to GA? diego_pmc (talk) 10:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia cited

I just watched a programme on the telly which featured the presenter searching Wikipedia for an article. Can anyone let me know if there's a template to add to that particular article's talk page (or if it should be added elsewhere). Thanks Craigy (talk) 22:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

My grandson has just been diagnosed with Stereotypy. I have tried to get my hands on anything that could help me understand this malady.

I am not finding his symptoms that I have read about this conditions.

He is extremely bright. Quick intellegent responces that belie his just turning 7. He has been doing the same thimng since he was an infant. Now it is much worse. His whole body stiffens up and he begins to make a moaning sound that is now getting louder.

He is aware that it is happening, but is unable to stop until it is over. It is almost like a mini seasure.

He would like to stop. He is questioned about it at school and has resigned to telling his friend that he will "out grow it".

The fact that this has been going on since he was 2 to 3 months old, tells me that it is involentary.

Does thi ssound to anyone like Stereotypy? Can anyone think os anything other conditions that exhibit these same symptoms?

I will be most grateful for any input. Diana S. Lane —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] wiki help

why doesn't wikimedia put all it's prodgeton a downloadable version avialable to download online so you can use wikimedeia offline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dance education

IDisasterpooh (talk) 11:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Đs there really dance schools that promote dance educations?

I like wikipedia Ironman88988 (talk) 03:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Messed up jumble of HTML?

Hello, I am a contributor to the Wikipedia article Katara, and recently I have been having trouble wih some HTML on the page. Right below where the references are cited, there is a section entitled, Appearence in other media. I have tried multiple times to sort out this HTML so that it will work, but to no avail, eventually I gave up on the idea and tried removing the entire section as it contained a very minute amount of information that could be replaced shortly after. However, once I deleted the section, the entire reference list was deleted as well, even though they are in different sections. If someone could un-tangle the HTML or figure out how to get rid of it without deleting the references I would be most thankful.([[User talk:Kurowoofwoof111|talk]]) (talk) 20:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)