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[edit] Excuse Me...

Hey, well, I found this grammar mistake in the page if you would please change it. Here is the sentence:

Launched in 2001 by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger,[4] it currently the largest, fastest-growing and most popular general reference work available on the Internet.

As you can see, "...it currently the largest..." isn't grammatically correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincer 17 (talk • contribs) 11:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Licensing Change ?

I administer Ultipedia, a site largely inspired by Wikipedia, but dedicated to capturing the culture surrounding Ultimate (sport). I have been discussing integrating articles from another source which are currently under a CC-BY-SA-NC license. Since I have written most of the content on Ultipedia I am not adverse to changing licenses, but the notion of continuing to deal with cross-licensing issues is very unappealing. Is it likely that Wikipedia will change licenses ? In order to maximise cross pollination efforts with Wikipedia (both present and future), what would be the best license to use for a nascent wiki ? Ivasara (talk) 17:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

All Creative Commons licenses are incompatible with the GFDL. If you switch to a CC license, you will not be able to use any Wikimedia foundation content. Wikimedia will probably never change licenses since that would require approval of all its contributors. — Wenli (reply here) 23:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Watch this space. Wikipedia articles are licensed under "Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation." Changes are coming to the GFDL itself, to make Wikipedia's GFDL-licensed compatible with some -- but not all -- CC licenses. However, it's very unlikely ever to become compatible with any NC licenses. See http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2007/12/wikipedia-is-free-to-relicense-under-cc.html -- The Anome (talk) 23:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Source citation on trademark

In the final paragraph of "History" section there's a citation needed tag on the text of wikipedia's trademark. I'm just a newb and don't know all the editing procedures, and I'm not sure if this link is permanent, but here is the url for the United States Patent and Trademark Office's TARR page for the Wikipedia trademark: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78483359 The text "Providing information in the field of general encyclopedic knowledge via the Internet" can be found under the section "Goods and Services". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.104.144.250 (talk) 08:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Foundership

Sorry to bring this tedious saga back up but I was surprised after all the debate which has gone on that this article has certain references to "who is the founder" where really none is necessary. I have removed a paragraph-opening sentence, "Larry Sanger and Jimmy Wales are the founders of Wikipedia." It seems unnecessary to make such a firm pronouncement without mentioning controversy over the name. The history of article goes into the foundership in well-handled detail anyway. I also rephrased a couple of references to Jimbo as "Jimmy, the founder" and "co-founder Jimmy" to "founder Jimmy" which does the job of informing who it is we're talking about but leaves it open as to whether he is the only founder or whatever.

I hope that wasn't jumping the gun too much but thought I'd explain the reasoning here. BigBlueFish (talk) 11:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It was. There is no controversy. Bramlet Abercrombie (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Shall I just delete the load of citations like this one from History of Wikipedia then? Of course there was a controversy, and there is not one source which discusses that controversy and concludes with such a blanket statement as "Larry Sanger and Jimmy Wales are the founders of Wikipedia". In fact, neither does the History of Wikipedia article, so by the tenets of WP:SS nor should this one. BigBlueFish (talk) 14:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Your citation says as a matter of fact: "The question of accuracy spurred Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger..." And there are plenty of other such sources, and yet you couldn't find a single one which explicitly denies Sanger's co-foundership, so it is not disputed - other than by Wales, which on itself doesn't make a controversy. Bramlet Abercrombie (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I certainly agree with BigBlueFish on this one, as Bramlet well knows. This was an issue like 3 years ago but simply is not any more as the world has moved on. Thanks, SqueakBox 15:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, you made a good point there. I hadn't seen that that article had treated Sanger as such, as a lot of others such as this one don't. I think in that case this should be reflected in the history of article. Also, why did you revert my removal of the label "controversy" if there is no controversy? The cited source doesn't say anything about controversy, so the label is misleading. If we need to cite something about the controversy for the stated fact, which I don't think we necessarily do (if the sub-article makes it sufficiently clear that the cofoundership is fact) then the current source used is inadequate. BigBlueFish (talk) 15:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Using WIkipedia in the classroom...

Hello. My name is Amina. I am in middle school. My teacher says that it may not be good to use Wikipedia for research because anyone can edit it, and some stuff could be inaccurate. Can we discuss this topic and what we feel about it? I am just curious about what others would say. Thanks! I will create a Wikipedia account soon. --65.190.208.212 (talk) 21:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, here is my account: --Amina96 (talk) 21:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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